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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 9, 2017 17:23:59 GMT
Here I hope, is an image of an Anglo-Saxon coin. This is the reverse of a silver sceat of Aethelred I of Northumbria, (2nd reign, 789-796 AD.). The moneyer is the very rare 'HNIFULA', whose name means 'forehead', so presumably it's a nickname. S.856, N.185. The silver content is probably in the region of 40% to 60%, its not been tested. I've tried my best, but I only seem to be able to post one image per posting. I'm sure more are possible but I don't seem to be competent enough to do it!!! John, I'm not that familiar with the moneyers but that shouldn't be a surprise as this is a new area for me. I'm willing to learn and look forward to the educational experiences within this group...
Oh, BTW adding additional photos can be accomplished by hitting "Add" and "Insert" for each additional image.
Rickie
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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 9, 2017 18:46:33 GMT
Here is another Anglo-Saxon coin.
Below is the obverse of a silver sceat of King Aethelred I of Northumbria, (1st. reign 774-779/80 AD). A rather simple but pleasant design, with the Kings name 'EDILRED', around a simple cross pattee. The reverse depicts a fantastic quadruped, probably intending to be a lion. I'll upload this, when I finally master the insertion of more than one item!! The first 'D' in the King's name, is the runic letter 'eth', which should have the upright barred to be totally correct. This 'runic' letter gives the sound of the Roman 'th'.
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Post by vacolony on Feb 10, 2017 3:49:33 GMT
John, Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a pretty rare type? Thanks for sharing... Rick
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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 10, 2017 20:36:12 GMT
John, Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a pretty rare type? Thanks for sharing... Rick Yes, you are right it's quite rare 'vacolony'; it's a very nice example too!! I'll add more coins in due course, I hope.
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Post by craigy on Feb 25, 2017 22:03:41 GMT
i used to watch saxon pennys sell for £100 or there bouts on ebay not many years ago, now look at the price,
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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 26, 2017 11:46:07 GMT
i used to watch saxon pennys sell for £100 or there bouts on ebay not many years ago, now look at the price, Recently I've not seen that many A/S pennies for sale on eBay, at least not many nice ones at realistic prices. I think that many sellers are asking far too much for what are often second rate and/or damaged pieces on eBay. It seems that greed has taken over, to the detriment of all. There are less on line than in the past, I think.
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Post by craigy on Mar 2, 2017 9:19:30 GMT
people would be astounded to learn how many millions were minted to keep the danes from taking over, there was some thing like 130,000,000 pennies minted in Edward I re coinage i read some where
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Post by jncross1949 on Mar 31, 2017 13:47:32 GMT
can any one id this one ? Hi Craigy,
That coin seems rather interesting. First of all, I assume that it's both sides of the same coin and not two separate coins. If that's the case, then it would appear to be a base silver Styca of 'the time of' King Eanred [810-841AD] of Northumbria. It seems to be a somewhat 'blundered' double-reverse, giving the names of two known moneyer's CYNVVULF [Cynwulf or Cunwulf], paired with another known moneyer, HEARDVVLF [Correctly VVLFHEARD, Wulfheard]. S.860, N.186. If I'm correct, double-reverses are quite rare, particularly at this earlier stage of the base silver issues of Eanred's Stycas. I've not yet had time to search Miss Pirie's mammoth and rather idiosyncratic, "Coins of the Kingdom of Northumbria" yet, but I'll do so, if you've not already done it? Look forward to your views in due course. The dies look reasonably official and the coin looks genuine, but as I'm sure you know, many modern forgeries are quite difficult to detect, especially from a picture. Then could it be an unofficial contemporary issue. All in all, quite interesting. How did you get it, are you interested in selling?
Kind regards, John Nicholas Cross.
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Post by jncross1949 on Apr 12, 2017 15:41:57 GMT
Hi Craigy or anybody else, I'm still waiting for your comments on my identification of your coin. We're supposed to discuss matters about coins or is this just another forum that goes nowhere??
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Post by coins4me on Apr 24, 2017 19:59:17 GMT
That sounds an impressive ID jncross.
Must admit I have always struggled with IDing anything pre Henry 8. Seen a few anglo saxon but never really managed to get excited but them.
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Post by christinecoins on Apr 26, 2017 12:20:27 GMT
Trouble with coins is that there is so much to it. I collect the English milled series, and whilst no expert, I think I know a fair bit about that area. Anglo-Saxon coins are fascinating, and I would be happy to collect them, if only I knew enough about them. is there a book, for ordinary people like me? if so I might just read it and learn something I didn't know. who knows, maybe I'll even start collecting the Anglo-Saxon series!
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Post by jncross1949 on Apr 29, 2017 12:03:50 GMT
I find Anglo-Saxon coins wonderfully interesting to collect. From the very early but expensive thrymsas or shillings of gold, on to the small silver sceattas (early pennies), to the generally base metal stycas (debased pennies) of the Kingdom of Northumbria; then the last phase of the larger silver pennies. The Anglo-Saxon coinage being long lasting, with the issues of many Kings and Archbishops from several Kingdoms and a considerable number of types, with mints with a far greater compliment of moneyer's for each mint. So it's a coinage of about 450 years duration with a very considerable number of different issues, so to appreciate and understand it a fairly comprehensive book is required. 'English Hammered Coinage' vol I by J. J. North, which maybe out of print now but second hand copies are easy to find. It's excellent and still very useful, it will well repay frequent use and study. If you only want to collect a few specimens, Spink, 'Coins of England and the United Kingdom' is fine, with the current edition giving up to date retail prices. There are several even more specialist books, which are top-notch and cover specific areas of the coinage, with the annual 'British Numismatic Journal' Good Luck!!
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Post by nap on May 4, 2017 18:42:52 GMT
John,
We've talked before, we are both Anglo-Saxon coin enthusiasts and specifically interested in Northumbrian stycas.
I think you have a terrific coin of Hnifula as well as an excellent example of the first reign of Aethelred I.
I have managed to pick up examples of one of each moneyer on the stycas, which I thought complete, though on review of the new SCBI Lyon collection of coins, there may be a new moneyer for Aethelred I (Eadbeorht?) of which he has a chipped example, seemingly unique.
Otherwise the rarest moneyers are Edilech and Hnifula. Cuthgils is pretty rare too. There are at least 40 different moneyers!
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Post by nap on May 4, 2017 18:45:59 GMT
John,
I'm not seeing what you are on Craigy's coin. To me it looks like a regular Eanred/Cynwulf with the obverse monarch's name retrograde (EANRED REX)
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