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Post by jncross1949 on Jan 29, 2017 18:28:38 GMT
Are there any collectors of Anglo-Saxon coins on this website? If so, I'd be delighted to hear from you and hear about your collection and discuss the many interesting topics relating to England's hammered coinage.
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Post by vacolony on Jan 30, 2017 23:49:12 GMT
Jncross1949, I've started a British Monarch set from Egbert to George-III... I can't seem to figure out how to post images yet! Have you got anything to share?
Rick
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Post by jncross1949 on Jan 31, 2017 20:22:42 GMT
Nice to hear from you 'Vacolony'. If you want any help, information, etc. etc. please don't hesitate to contact me. I'm pretty familiar with the Anglo-Saxon period, as I collect them; I know less about the later period. Have you been collecting for long? I've been collecting solely A/S coins for 40 years now and have about 225 coins --- thrymsas, sceats, stycas and pennies. I'm still looking for some, if I can afford them, if not, I'm content with identifiable fragments or damaged pieces for the greater rarities. If you feel like it do say more about your aims and how far you've got? My aim has been to get an example of every king, queen, cleric, who issued coins bearing their name, plus a representative collection of thrymsas and sceats.
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Post by craigy on Jan 31, 2017 20:36:06 GMT
Nice to hear from you 'Vacolony'. If you want any help, information, etc. etc. please don't hesitate to contact me. I'm pretty familiar with the Anglo-Saxon period, as I collect them; I know less about the later period. Have you been collecting for long? I've been collecting solely A/S coins for 40 years now and have about 225 coins --- thrymsas, sceats, stycas and pennies. I'm still looking for some, if I can afford them, if not, I'm content with identifiable fragments or damaged pieces for the greater rarities. If you feel like it do say more about your aims and how far you've got? My aim has been to get an example of every king, queen, cleric, who issued coins bearing their name, plus a representative collection of thrymsas and sceats. i have a silver styca , will get aq pic of it |
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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 2, 2017 19:10:46 GMT
Hi Craigy, I would love to see a picture or have details of your styca.
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Post by vacolony on Feb 4, 2017 4:26:16 GMT
John, I've only been collecting hammered coins for about 2 years now... I'm still leaning! Here's a nice little copper Wigmund, moneyer Coenred. Enjoy! Rick
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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 4, 2017 9:23:12 GMT
John, I've only been collecting hammered coins for about 2 years now... I'm still leaning! Here's a nice little copper Wigmund, moneyer Coenred. Enjoy! Rick
That's a very nice Northumbrian styca of archbishop Wigmund of York. I'll try and post some of mine when I learn how to upload images. As regards learning about British hammered coins, I think that like so many subjects you try to learn about, the more you know the more you realise you don't know!! I find hammered coins far more interesting than the very modern milled issues but each to their own. Hope you find some more nice examples soon, at a price that's reasonable. |
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Post by vacolony on Feb 5, 2017 1:35:24 GMT
Thanks John... I do like the nice ones but they end up taking my entire coin allowance. Here's a pair of silver ones...
Rick
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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 5, 2017 17:45:13 GMT
Thanks John... I do like the nice ones but they end up taking my entire coin allowance. Here's a pair of silver ones...
Rick
Rick, you've got two very nice sliver sceats, both I think are Frisian (Netherlands coastal area) and they circulated in significant numbers in England and the north European coastal areas, mainly for trade I imagine, along with the native Anglo-Saxon issues. They date to circa 695 - 740 AD., and are normally of a good standard of silver. I think that because they are so small, it's important to buy nice quality examples to obtain an attractive specimen, although poorer ones have the same historical interest, they are not very appealing to the eye. If you are thinking of resale value for the future, I think that particularly for this series, you should buy the very, very best you can afford. I don't believe the poorer issues will appreciate in value over the years to any extent and may well become cheaper. Most of these 'Frisian' sceats were minted at 'Domburg and Dorestad', near the mouth of the river Rhine and circulated in north-western Europe, along with the A/S and Danish etc issues as a sort of proto Euro. As well as Spinks, 'Coins of England & the United Kingdom'; Abramson's superb 'Sceatta List' (including, Stycas Simplfied') and also his, 'Sceattas, An Illustrated Guide' are excellent books. For any really keen and enthusiastic collector, I think these are essential. There are other good books on the subject, but I think they are out of print now but second-hand copies do come up from time to time but aren't cheap. When I've mastered the posting of images, I'll post some of my sceats and stycas --- I'm working on it!!! Kind regards, John. |
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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 5, 2017 18:59:12 GMT
i think its copper alloy, Æthelred II Thanks for posting Craigy. You've got a very nice Northumbrian Styca of Aethelred II (1st.reign 841-843/4 AD). S.865. N.188. By this time the Northumbrian coinage was reaching a new low, its stycas were debased so drastically, that they usually contained only about 3% to 9% silver with an interestingly erratic alloy, containing some or all of the following metals in varying amounts: copper, zinc, arsenic, lead, iron, nickel, bismuth, gold, tin, cobalt and antimony. I think that most of these metals came from mining in the Pennines and Southern Upland hills. A few years later they contained no silver at all!! There are different theories as to why this drastic debasement occurred but I think that the main reason was the Viking raids, that on the monasteries and royal manors had denuded the kingdom of much of its silver and portable wealth. Wendelberht, the moneyer, is one of the scarcer moneyers. This series of late Northumbrian stycas is extensively die-linked, difficult to classify clearly, presumably all struck at York, although other mints have been suggested but haven't been accepted. How they were tariffed against the southern kingdoms silver pennies, is also unknown. They were certainly struck in very large numbers, as the large numbers found in hoards show. Kind regards, John. |
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Post by vacolony on Feb 5, 2017 22:48:18 GMT
John,
Great post... Thank you for the information!!! It always a good day to learn something new! Anyway, I made a little quick guide on posting images... Hope this helps and look forward to seeing some of your coins soon.
BTW Craigy, great coin and thanks for sharing!
Rick
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Post by craigy on Feb 6, 2017 11:47:17 GMT
i think its copper alloy, Æthelred II Thanks for posting Craigy. You've got a very nice Northumbrian Styca of Aethelred II (1st.reign 841-843/4 AD). S.865. N.188. By this time the Northumbrian coinage was reaching a new low, its stycas were debased so drastically, that they usually contained only about 3% to 9% silver with an interestingly erratic alloy, containing some or all of the following metals in varying amounts: copper, zinc, arsenic, lead, iron, nickel, bismuth, gold, tin, cobalt and antimony. I think that most of these metals came from mining in the Pennines and Southern Upland hills. A few years later they contained no silver at all!! There are different theories as to why this drastic debasement occurred but I think that the main reason was the Viking raids, that on the monasteries and royal manors had denuded the kingdom of much of its silver and portable wealth. Wendelberht, the moneyer, is one of the scarcer moneyers. This series of late Northumbrian stycas is extensively die-linked, difficult to classify clearly, presumably all struck at York, although other mints have been suggested but haven't been accepted. How they were tariffed against the southern kingdoms silver pennies, is also unknown. They were certainly struck in very large numbers, as the large numbers found in hoards show. Kind regards, John. i paid a lot money for that lol, was the first thing i ever bought on ebay, paid £62 for it over 10 years ago |
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Post by jncross1949 on Feb 6, 2017 22:14:20 GMT
Here I hope, is an image of an Anglo-Saxon coin. This is the reverse of a silver sceat of Aethelred I of Northumbria, (2nd reign, 789-796 AD.). The moneyer is the very rare 'HNIFULA', whose name means 'forehead', so presumably it's a nickname. S.856, N.185. The silver content is probably in the region of 40% to 60%, its not been tested. I've tried my best, but I only seem to be able to post one image per posting. I'm sure more are possible but I don't seem to be competent enough to do it!!! |
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Post by vacolony on Feb 8, 2017 3:10:01 GMT
Here I hope, is an image of an Anglo-Saxon coin. This is the reverse of a silver sceat of Aethelred I of Northumbria, (2nd reign, 789-796 AD.). The moneyer is the very rare 'HNIFULA', whose name means 'forehead', so presumably it's a nickname. S.856, N.185. The silver content is probably in the region of 40% to 60%, its not been tested. I've tried my best, but I only seem to be able to post one image per posting. I'm sure more are possible but I don't seem to be competent enough to do it!!! John,
I'm not that familiar with the moneyers but that shouldn't be a surprise as this is a new area for me. I'm willing to learn and look forward to the educational experiences within this group...
Oh, BTW adding additional photos can be accomplished by hitting "Add" and "Insert" for each additional image.
Rickie
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